Charlie 21
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" A coalition of 11 nations will start training #Ukraine pilots to fly #F16 fighter jets in August in #Denmark and a training centre will be set up in #Romania

"Hopefully, we will be able to see results in the beginning of next year"

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02:38 PM - Jul 11, 2023
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Civil Canuck
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In response to Charlie 21.
Ok, they don't have any actual F-16s pledged yet, but this is development is headed in the right direction.
02:52 PM - Jul 11, 2023
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Charlie 21
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In response to Civil Canuck.
It's frustrating to see how this is being drawn out.

The US may be planning to use it as leverage with Ukraine to force them to accept a peace settlement, e.g. "Cede Russia the Donbas and Crimea and then you get F-16s, more Abrams tanks, and can join NATO"
04:12 PM - Jul 11, 2023
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Civil Canuck
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In response to Charlie 21.
You think? Oh, hell, gawd no. Hope someone else pledges jets so those offers stay gone.
06:00 PM - Jul 11, 2023
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Charlie 21
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Nobody can give Ukraine F-16s without US consent

Europe could conceivably give them Typhoons but are unlikely to outright defy the US on this

Sweden's Gripen would actually be ideal but they don't have many of them and also won't risk their entry into NATO by immediately going against the US
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11:30 AM - Jul 12, 2023
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