Woke/Saying NO to polls
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What do you think he should have done? Tell the class what your suggestion is for all the Western leaders.

He's walking a tightrope.
Jenna @Jenna
Unfortunately I think Biden has really fucked himself with his position on Israel/Gaza. I think he could've pulled off a win before this, but I don't see it happening anymore. As always, I wish we had better choices.
01:20 PM - Dec 13, 2023
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Karl S the Typo King
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In response to Woke/Saying NO to polls.
It’s amazing how people feel that they can disparage Biden for whatever choice he makes, but can’t look themselves in the mirror and admit if they were in his position they would curl up in the fetal position and just cry.
01:29 PM - Dec 13, 2023
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Arik Absurd
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In response to Karl S the Typo King.
Yes, but we aren't seeking power at that level. If he wants the job, he should be expected to do it well.
01:36 PM - Dec 13, 2023
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Karl S the Typo King
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In response to Arik Absurd.
So yes you would be in the fetal position if you needed to make the decision he does, or just because you have no aspirations of being president you can criticize choices you have minimal experience and information about?
01:56 PM - Dec 13, 2023
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Arik Absurd
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In response to Karl S the Typo King.
Yes, the latter. I am under no obligation to make such choices. I am, however, free to criticize his.

This is like the time a Target manager yelled at me to get back to work just because I happened to wear a red shirt.
02:06 PM - Dec 13, 2023
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Karl S the Typo King
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In response to Arik Absurd.
Everyone is free to criticize, that’s how it works, but when it comes down to it, he’s making the choices that he thinks are best for everyone, and unlike target if he fucks up, a lot of people could die. Critizing and disparaging are not the same thing.
02:18 PM - Dec 13, 2023
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Arik Absurd
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In response to Karl S the Typo King.
Ok, so what is the defining line between criticizing (which you're against. See spout #1 ) and disparaging (which you're also against)?
02:22 PM - Dec 13, 2023
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Karl S the Typo King
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In response to Arik Absurd.
Not agreeing with what he does is criticism, saying he’s fucked and will lose the next election is disparaging. The original spout does both. Unless you’re an expert on the Middle East and Israel and Palestine, you’re providing an uninformed opinion.
02:44 PM - Dec 13, 2023
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Arik Absurd
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In response to Karl S the Typo King.
Disparaging is saying "I don't want him to win". the original person was expressing dismay based on Biden's perceived weakness. "[I think] he's fucked" is an opinion.

Your response was not to correct the (in your view) misconception, but to attack them for their perception.
02:55 PM - Dec 13, 2023
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Karl S the Typo King
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In response to Arik Absurd.
Attack? That’s a bit extreme. Read their last line again, they’re equating Biden and a piece of shit, disparaging. My response was that people faced with making the same decisions he’s making would crumble under the pressure of the decision.
03:04 PM - Dec 13, 2023
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Jenna
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In response to Karl S the Typo King.
Sorry I'm confused - who equated Biden to a piece of shit? I don't see that anywhere, certainly in not what I said. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with the choices he is making, and there's nothing wrong with protesting against them. That's literally our right as voters.
04:47 PM - Dec 13, 2023
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Karl S the Typo King
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In response to Jenna.
Your last line of I wish we had better choices I see a comparison between the two leading candidates. We have a significantly better choice available between those two. Yes people can disagree with him, and yes people can protest.
04:51 PM - Dec 13, 2023
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Jenna
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In response to Karl S the Typo King.
Ok I think you misunderstood what I meant. I wish we had better choices for the Democratic ticket. I'd never in a million years vote for Trump, lol
04:56 PM - Dec 13, 2023
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Karl S the Typo King
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In response to Jenna.
It reads to me, which is where part of where the misunderstanding can come in, as you not being willing to vote for him based on this alone. I could be wrong about that too.
05:00 PM - Dec 13, 2023
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Jenna
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In response to Karl S the Typo King.
Oh no I personally will still vote for him. But I can understand those threatening not to, b/c how else can they get him to listen and make the right choice on this issue? They're doing everything they can and he still won't listen. I just think he's making a mistake that may fuck us all over.
05:05 PM - Dec 13, 2023
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Karl S the Typo King
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In response to Jenna.
It’s a situation where I wish I had all the pertinent information, but I don’t even know how long it would take to get a full grasp of what’s going on.
05:10 PM - Dec 13, 2023
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Jenna
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In response to Karl S the Typo King.
I'm no expert on world history, but the more I learn, the more I am disgusted with US foreign policy. And I promise I try to find reputable sources for my information.
05:14 PM - Dec 13, 2023
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Karl S the Typo King
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I have found the same. US foreign policy is fucked up and has been for years.
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05:20 PM - Dec 13, 2023
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