Miriam
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The whole normal % thing is a perfect example of our human tendencies. Lower numbers want higher, higher numbers want lower. No one's content, chaos ensues, and in 12 hours we'll forget about it all.
07:09 PM - Mar 12, 2023
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Raymond Hawkins
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In response to Miriam.
I am not happy with a public assessment by a remote program.

My intention has been to contribute to growing a community of respectful people, but I've attracted a rating which doesn't make sense of that intention, nor of my supportive spouts.

I don't like it now. I won't like it tomorrow.
06:10 AM - Mar 13, 2023
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Ethical Atheist
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In response to Raymond Hawkins.
"I am not happy"

"My intention" ..." but I've"..."My....spouts".

"I don't". "I won't"

Do you hear yourself?

Is this one of your supportive Spouts?
08:10 AM - Mar 13, 2023
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Raymond Hawkins
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In response to Ethical Atheist.
Yes this was a personal perspective. I don’t like being assessed by a bot. My posts don’t often take in a personal perspective but this one has, which is part of the expression available.

Are you the spout police?
03:22 PM - Mar 13, 2023
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Ethical Atheist
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In response to Raymond Hawkins.
It's funny you don't think you're being assessed by bots everyday.

But we all know where you stand on this one and that it's important you announce that to everyone.

This bot is honest and up front about it.

I for one appreciate that.
04:22 PM - Mar 13, 2023 (Edited)
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Raymond Hawkins
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In response to Ethical Atheist.
I'm just back from spending 6 mths living with remote tribespeople in Assam, India, called the Mishing.

Just about to head back into the desert leading a program that goes deep into Aboriginal Australia.

I wouldn't presume to know anything about my motivations.
05:04 PM - Mar 13, 2023
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Ethical Atheist
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In response to Raymond Hawkins.
Then perhaps you could understand why this platform has been built with a tool to save it (and all of us) from the evils of whiteness.

Or you can be a white man complaining about having to deal with a tool designed to keep the marginalized safe.

Your choice.
05:53 PM - Mar 13, 2023
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Raymond Hawkins
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In response to Ethical Atheist.
You do know your name almost defines self indulgent. Firstly you are ‘ethical’, even if you do say so yourself. Secondly you are an atheist, like who cares.

My Aboriginal name is Raymond Tjapuljarri Possum. Lived with blackfellas for a decade, didn’t just post about whiteness.
06:17 PM - Mar 13, 2023
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Ethical Atheist
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In response to Raymond Hawkins.
OK.

Nothing will change until us white men call out whiteness. Explicitly.

And not highlight our personal connections with Black people.

You have no clue where I grew up either.

That's not a game either of us will win and won't benefit any of the non-white people we both care about.
06:38 PM - Mar 13, 2023 (Edited)
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Raymond Hawkins
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In response to Ethical Atheist.
An objection to being randomly evaluated by a program is now an evaluation of whiteness.

My history is one of assimilation into Aboriginal Australia, Bhopal Gypsies and Mishing tribes.

If you were ethical you’d just admit u got it wrong but u won’t because people just use ‘tags’ without meaning
08:02 PM - Mar 13, 2023 (Edited)
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Ethical Atheist
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In response to Raymond Hawkins.
I've not seen a non-white person complain about the ratings.

Your (or my) background assimilating with others which we've both done does nothing to change that.

But yeah, not you.

I get it.
08:05 PM - Mar 13, 2023 (Edited)
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Raymond Hawkins
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In response to Ethical Atheist.
All people are allowed to voice my opinion. If I'm wrong just explain.

You've obviously got an obsession about 'whiteness', and you are really ethical, and you are an atheist.

I just see a virtue signaller. I used to see them in Central Australia coming to save the Aboriginals I worked with.
08:17 PM - Mar 13, 2023
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Ethical Atheist
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In response to Raymond Hawkins.
This all started with me calling you out for centering yourself.

We are now two white men debating among ourselves.

We are both doing that.

I'm going to leave it here.

May we both find a way to undo the harm our history has inflicted on others.
08:21 PM - Mar 13, 2023
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Raymond Hawkins
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You clearly see everything thru one lens - whiteness - and doing it with someone who has spent his life with blackfellas and minorities.

You are now attempting to take the higher ground which is always the safe harbour of the virtue signaller.
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08:27 PM - Mar 13, 2023
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Ethical Atheist
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In response to Raymond Hawkins.
You're just proving my point.

Glad you have non-white friends. I do too.

If you want to understand America it's not about who you hang with, it's about the systems of injustice. The systems of whiteness.

I'd argue the same in any former UK colony. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
08:33 PM - Mar 13, 2023 (Edited)
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Raymond Hawkins
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In response to Ethical Atheist.
I thought you'd said your last word.

Now you aren't making any sense but claiming it as a victory.

Do you go on about 'whiteness' all the time even when it is irrelevant. Or how ethical you are? Or how you are an atheist?

Are people avoiding you?

Do they yawn more than usual in your pr
08:42 PM - Mar 13, 2023
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