Iain McIntosh
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The report about Biden's memory seems to be a rather large nail in the coffin of his election bid.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/08/biden-special-counsel-report-key-takeaways
07:24 PM - Feb 08, 2024
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Benny Andthejets
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In response to Iain McIntosh.
It appears that way if yu lety the media gaslight you. I know what my eyes and ears see and hear and it isn't what they're selling. Everything is just fine. Keep calm and vote.
08:17 PM - Feb 08, 2024
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Iain McIntosh
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In response to Benny Andthejets.
Problem here is that The Guardian isn't a paper which gaslights. To have this reported by one of the world's most trusted news sources is worrying - not for me, but for the wider audience. I really do not understand why the Democrats have allowed this situation to develop - it was inevitable.
04:51 AM - Feb 09, 2024
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Benny Andthejets
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In response to Iain McIntosh.
What's worrrying is that their reporting is inaccurate.
08:49 AM - Feb 09, 2024
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Iain McIntosh
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In response to Benny Andthejets.
No-one seems to be questioning the report by the public official Hur. My issue is that this sort of thing was inevitable, so why is the Democratic Party in this mess?
12:38 PM - Feb 09, 2024
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Benny Andthejets
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In response to Iain McIntosh.
Go watch Biden's speech respondfing to the report. The man is sharp as a tack, snappy, witty, combacks, can track who's speaking, speaks at a good pace, & he shredded Hur and his stupid report with unnecessary commentary. The double standards the media is applying to Biden and the rapist are insane
04:12 PM - Feb 09, 2024
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Iain McIntosh
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In response to Benny Andthejets.
That's not my issue. What I'm concerned about is why and how Democratic party have failed to address what is a fatal flaw about Biden's age (but was obviously going to happen). For the future of the USA Trump has to lose, but the Democrats aren't helping by having Biden as candidate.
05:00 PM - Feb 09, 2024
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Benny Andthejets
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In response to Iain McIntosh.
I see this very differently. I see a ton of enthusiasm for Biden. Look at his record, he's broken more records than any presesident, he's ruunning circles around the last 3 GOp presidents combined. I highly recommend checking out the Meidas Touch Network on you tube. great legal/political analysis.
06:58 PM - Feb 09, 2024
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Iain McIntosh
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In response to Benny Andthejets.
You're not engaging with my concern - which is why we're in this situation where Biden can be attacked. Why are we even in this situation?
08:31 PM - Feb 09, 2024
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Benny Andthejets
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In response to Iain McIntosh.
I don't know what more you want me to address about it. The right wiing are dirty fuckers and are manipulating the media. Stay calm, get involved and vote. And get everyone you know to vote and to watch these speeches from both of them, not clips from the media watch the whole speeches.
08:58 PM - Feb 09, 2024
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Iain McIntosh
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In response to Benny Andthejets.
I've no issue with Biden as a person. My problem is why we're in this situation. Why is Democratic party supporting presidential campaign with someone who'll be 86 at the end of the next presidency - utterly insane. Few of us have relatives who live to 86. As a plan to win the election it's mad.
10:18 AM - Feb 10, 2024
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Benny Andthejets
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In response to Iain McIntosh.
Again I implore you to go look at Biden's record. It runs cirrcles around any other president. He is the most qualified. Stop listening to the bullshit. Yes he's old, he's the most qualified statesman and he is the only one who can take on the rapist fraud maniac. I will not discuss this further.
10:22 AM - Feb 10, 2024
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Iain McIntosh
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In response to Benny Andthejets.
I realise you're done with this discussion, but you've not understood my point. I believe in Biden, he's absolutely one of the best, period. But trying to win election with him is a huge challenge. He's wide open to media attack despite achievements and record. The voters will believe the bullshit.
11:42 AM - Feb 10, 2024
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Sabine
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In response to Iain McIntosh.
it is a narrative that doesn´t root in reality. It is in principle the only weak spot the republicans and their 5th army of supporting media can exploit. There is no reason to follow their lead to make it a concern. This would be the wrong strategy.
05:28 PM - Feb 10, 2024 (Edited)
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Iain McIntosh
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In response to Sabine.
Well, the origin to this thread was "why are we in this situation". I'm genuinely interested in why the Dem's didn't nurture a successor to Biden over the past 4 years. Someone who would be less vulnerable to Trump's and the GOP's populism. Many thought this would be Kamala Harris. Why are we here?
06:43 PM - Feb 10, 2024
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Sabine
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In response to Iain McIntosh.
he is the most experienced politician the US has, with an eminent track record as legislator, a knowledge of how things work (or what could make them work) and the passion to get things done. Not even to mention his international standing, which no one of the younger folks can rival.
06:59 PM - Feb 10, 2024
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Iain McIntosh
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In response to Sabine.
I agree with all of that, but there has to be a future. Sucession planning is difficult but utterly essential. Assume Biden wins (we all pray this happens), what happens in 2028? Also I hate to be negative, but statistical chances of Biden seeing out next 4 years are not great. So who takes over?
07:13 PM - Feb 10, 2024
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Sabine
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In response to Iain McIntosh.
i am usually very much for planning ahead, but 2028 is not something that should influence decisions now. For short term necessities it is the constitution that provides the solution (Harris), for medium term perspective the Democrats don´t lack talented politicians (eg Wittmer, Newsom, Buttigieg)
07:47 PM - Feb 10, 2024
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Iain McIntosh
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In response to Sabine.
This campaign should have been grooming a candidate (Harris?) way back before Biden even got elected. OK I agree that we are where we are, but the lack of planning could lead to disaster given Trump's ability to muster the popular vote -🤞 hope not.
07:53 PM - Feb 10, 2024
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Sabine
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In response to Iain McIntosh.
Tr*mp never had nor will he ever win the popular (generic) vote. Let´s be real: he won because of voter suppression and gerrymandering. But things have not changed in his favour since 2020. Changing demographics favour Biden and independents shun T*ump far more than 4 ys ago
08:03 PM - Feb 10, 2024
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Iain McIntosh
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In response to Sabine.
I hope you're right. But to be clear, in the UK we've seen our economy destroyed due to populist politics. We're not taking about "the popular vote" but voting skewed by populism. It happened here big time with Boris Johnson + Nigel Farage in a supporting role.
08:12 PM - Feb 10, 2024
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Sabine
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I´m familiar with the development in the UK, I´ve got friends over there. The evil at the root is not Farage, but Murdoch.
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08:15 PM - Feb 10, 2024
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Iain McIntosh
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In response to Sabine.
For sure Murdoch has his mucky fingers in UK gov't. Farage is just a grifter who uses politics to make money, but he's a very deft populist and does huge damage. Johnson is worse, he deliberately damaged the UK for personal gain - what an appalling excuse for a human being.
02:23 PM - Feb 11, 2024
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