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We live in an extremely complicated world.
Technology was touted as "time-saving" and "easing the burden", and a host of other catchphrases, so that we'd buy into it.
In many regards, technology has made life better for so many people, while for some it's been difficult to understand/navigate.
Technology was touted as "time-saving" and "easing the burden", and a host of other catchphrases, so that we'd buy into it.
In many regards, technology has made life better for so many people, while for some it's been difficult to understand/navigate.
02:25 PM - Mar 10, 2024
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There are valid criticisms for and against. Those are based solely in the individual use case.
Where things really start to take a turn, is when you have multiple services, each with their own rules, wrapped in one product.
In the Pod this morning I saw several people
Where things really start to take a turn, is when you have multiple services, each with their own rules, wrapped in one product.
In the Pod this morning I saw several people
02:25 PM - Mar 10, 2024
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questioning the level of involvement the ad service has, and where is the line drawn.
I find it interesting that there's so much concern in this one case, when it's been standard in print, radio, and television, since forever.
Advertisers have had a lot of power when it comes to the money they're
I find it interesting that there's so much concern in this one case, when it's been standard in print, radio, and television, since forever.
Advertisers have had a lot of power when it comes to the money they're
02:25 PM - Mar 10, 2024
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spending.
In the 50s and 60s, they were a big part of keeping those sources segregated.
In the 70s and 80s, they made sure LGBTQIA people were only seen as monsters.
We've discussed here NUMEROUS times how the media are not our friends. They never have been. It's all dollars to them.
In the 50s and 60s, they were a big part of keeping those sources segregated.
In the 70s and 80s, they made sure LGBTQIA people were only seen as monsters.
We've discussed here NUMEROUS times how the media are not our friends. They never have been. It's all dollars to them.
02:25 PM - Mar 10, 2024
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Now, in regards to THIS event, I can only speak from the back end of it.
Google Ads as we know, is the ad provider helping to keep the lights on here. And we may not agree with some of the ads we see.
When you logged in after they went live, you were asked if you wanted general or personalized ads
Google Ads as we know, is the ad provider helping to keep the lights on here. And we may not agree with some of the ads we see.
When you logged in after they went live, you were asked if you wanted general or personalized ads
02:25 PM - Mar 10, 2024
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I imagine most clicked on general. The ramifications of that is you're getting a mix of ads that don't align with your wants or values.
If you clicked personal, you're getting more tailored ads based on your activity across ALL Google products.
You can change settings here to change to personal
If you clicked personal, you're getting more tailored ads based on your activity across ALL Google products.
You can change settings here to change to personal
02:25 PM - Mar 10, 2024
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AND you can changes your ad settings in your Google account to fine tune what you see.
Those are your responsibilities to do. It isn't the responsibility of the service provider.
It is also your responsibility to go read what may violate the ad service providers ToS. You shouldn't have to be held
Those are your responsibilities to do. It isn't the responsibility of the service provider.
It is also your responsibility to go read what may violate the ad service providers ToS. You shouldn't have to be held
02:25 PM - Mar 10, 2024
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by the hand through this. Their ToS isn't hard to find. It's literally the top result in the search.
I've worked with Google Ads from all sides: advertiser, ad viewer, and ad host.
They don't just ask hosts to remove content willy nilly. As big as they are, they don't have the manpower to monitor
I've worked with Google Ads from all sides: advertiser, ad viewer, and ad host.
They don't just ask hosts to remove content willy nilly. As big as they are, they don't have the manpower to monitor
02:25 PM - Mar 10, 2024
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all of their hosts 24/7. So they use algorithms to look for very specific patterns, etc.
I had a VERY adult themed blog on Blogger before and after Google took it over. Not once was my content flagged for removal. Not once was I asked to censor anything.
And before anyone tries to "what about"
I had a VERY adult themed blog on Blogger before and after Google took it over. Not once was my content flagged for removal. Not once was I asked to censor anything.
And before anyone tries to "what about"
02:25 PM - Mar 10, 2024
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this, EVERY ad service has a similar ToS. This is not in the slightest unique to Google.
You can disagree with their rules and that's fine. Disagree to your hearts content. But you are NEVER going to find a service that doesn't have the same requirements. It's part of doing business in the
You can disagree with their rules and that's fine. Disagree to your hearts content. But you are NEVER going to find a service that doesn't have the same requirements. It's part of doing business in the
02:25 PM - Mar 10, 2024
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technocentric world we live in.
The onus however, is on you to fine tune what you see. That takes a little time and effort to get it just right, FOR YOU.
It's not the responsibility of the Spoutible team to do that for you.
And it's also asking them to shoot themselves in the foot by demanding
The onus however, is on you to fine tune what you see. That takes a little time and effort to get it just right, FOR YOU.
It's not the responsibility of the Spoutible team to do that for you.
And it's also asking them to shoot themselves in the foot by demanding
02:25 PM - Mar 10, 2024
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that they tell Google to shove off when they alert to problematic content.
Ads are a necessity. And we have to play by their rules. Clearly they haven't been abusing the flagging process to this point. There's no reason to freak out about this.
Carry on and have a day.
Ads are a necessity. And we have to play by their rules. Clearly they haven't been abusing the flagging process to this point. There's no reason to freak out about this.
Carry on and have a day.
02:25 PM - Mar 10, 2024
In response to Mc Crispy.
I have insufficient information on this specific situation, though your posts have provided more.
In general terms, though, the power of Google bodes ill for the viability of any non-fascist media. And while it may be in practice, the onus for big companies' conduct should not be on individuals.
In general terms, though, the power of Google bodes ill for the viability of any non-fascist media. And while it may be in practice, the onus for big companies' conduct should not be on individuals.
02:25 AM - Mar 11, 2024
In response to Anton Brakhage.
Our power has always been in our dollars and who we spend them with. That's just the reality.
Corporations are our to make a buck, through any and all means available. That's just the reality. They're never going to change and it's illogical to expect otherwise.
Corporations are our to make a buck, through any and all means available. That's just the reality. They're never going to change and it's illogical to expect otherwise.
02:41 AM - Mar 11, 2024
In response to Mc Crispy.
Thanks for explaining- I don’t know any of this stuff ! If anyone cares to respond. What kind of content/spouts were the ad folks taking issue with ?
06:15 PM - Mar 10, 2024
In response to Mc Crispy.
another thought about the ads... ignore them and scroll past. report them if they are offensive, but making a huge fuss over them seems a bit wasteful of personal energy.
this is my opinion. this and $5 should get a good drink somewhere.
this is my opinion. this and $5 should get a good drink somewhere.
02:56 PM - Mar 10, 2024
In response to C. Shuy (she/they).
In the case of an ad service, if they start receiving a plethora of reports claiming ads are "offensive", we have to be very careful.
Because the knee jerk reaction is usually to pause all ads while they reevaluate the host. And we don't want that to happen here.
Because the knee jerk reaction is usually to pause all ads while they reevaluate the host. And we don't want that to happen here.
03:02 PM - Mar 10, 2024
In response to Mc Crispy.
another thought about the ads... ignore them and scroll past. report them if they are offensive, but making a huge fuss over them seems a bit wasteful of personal energy.
this is my opinion. this and $5 should get a good drink somewhere.
this is my opinion. this and $5 should get a good drink somewhere.
02:55 PM - Mar 10, 2024
