Sorry to be a wet blanket, but... Of course I'm glad to be rid of the toxic nonsense on the bird site. But it would be nice to see respectfully opposing views now and then. Living in an echo chamber is how Rs got to where they are today.
12:56 AM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
I agree. I have friends who can provide a rational argument against abortion. I have another friend who was willing to have a non-fraught conversation about owning an AK-47-style rifle
05:44 PM - May 18, 2023
In response to The Mad Genius of Spoutible.
I don’t agree with these people, but I’m interested in knowing how they got where they were. And I despair when people interested and willing to engage are castigated for the mere effort.
05:46 PM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
This spout was removed because the account associated with it was suspended.
02:42 PM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
The people on Spoutible are about planning, cohesing and finding ways to save our Democracy, about protecting our marginalized communities from a fascist party intent on destroying them. These "opposing views"...you speak of and are seeking out...would be located within that group...not here.
02:00 PM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
it depends on the topic. are we debating which infrastructure projects to fund, whether minority voter suppression is ok, should women should control their own bodies, or if my marriage certificate will stay valid? one of these things is not like the other.
01:55 PM - May 18, 2023
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In response to rob.
This is exactly to the point. "Respectfully opposing views" sounds good but it depends on what kind of views you're talking about. Equality, bodily autonomy, and fair treatment are not negotiable and any opposition is inherently disrespectful.
02:08 PM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
If the people you follow all seem to have the same point of view, and you want to view different posts, perhaps follow a lot more people. Go into explore and see what others are thinking and follow those who have different points of view.
01:07 PM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
This is hilarious. First Spout I've seen ratioed and it's for calling this place an echo chamber. 10/10 No notes
01:03 PM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
If you can find a Republican who is able to have a respectful conversation about anything, please do invite them. So far, I haven't found any.
12:50 PM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
I'm curious... what is "respectful" in saying LGBTQ+ don't deserve to exist? That's what the "opposing side" believes. They also think liberals should be murdered with no consequences. Where is the "respect" in that? Spoutible can be an echo chamber; it does not have to be.
12:33 PM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
Nah, being okay with racism is how Rs got to where they are now.
12:32 PM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
I agree.
As a European of multi-lingual country, I really like hearing out various points of views.
Spoutible seem to me, an Independent, too much of an echo chamber.
Of course basic rights can not be questioned. But what they exactly are deserves discussion.
Water, air, healthcare, internet
As a European of multi-lingual country, I really like hearing out various points of views.
Spoutible seem to me, an Independent, too much of an echo chamber.
Of course basic rights can not be questioned. But what they exactly are deserves discussion.
Water, air, healthcare, internet
12:21 PM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
It sounds to me more that you need to detox from the kind of aggressive and toxic dialectic you have become accustomed to that passes for political discourse.
12:17 PM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
Not every discussion has to be some tug of war battle of opposing views. Rational people can actually come to a compromise without everything turning into a pissing contest of views. Ideas can be shaped by consensus and cooperation without the need for a toxic dialectic.
12:16 PM - May 18, 2023
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In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
Why does every discussion HAVE to have an opposing view? I had a toxic boyfriend once, who insisted that I never compromised with him when I pushed back. The truth was that I picked my battles. I compromised with him all the time, he was just too narcissistic to see it.
12:14 PM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
Nazism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, misogyny... those aren't "opposing views." They are hateful, hurtful, and wrong. I think we can ALL agree on that, no? Those views should never be allowed to fester and grow. Ever.
12:09 PM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
The problem is that most opposing views are not respectfully given.
12:08 PM - May 18, 2023
In response to 455 arf.
The problem as I see it is that opposing views are instantly considered hostile, when they are just simply different.
12:30 PM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
You don't ever let Nazis in. Once you do, they take over and then you get the same hate speech and harassment problems that Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube still refuse to grapple with.
11:53 AM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
This is a very weird take.
I’m embarrassed for you.
There are times to just hush up and listen. This is how we learn to do better, to BE better.
I’m embarrassed for you.
There are times to just hush up and listen. This is how we learn to do better, to BE better.
11:23 AM - May 18, 2023
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In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
I had a rational disagreement here recently with a person about AI. But if you want opposing views on, say, human rights, this is probably not the place for you.
11:23 AM - May 18, 2023
In response to Jeanne Gustafson.
Which is all the GOP stands for – curbing the rights of people who are marginalized. There is no rational or respectful conversation to be had with such people.
12:05 PM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
When I hear white people use words like “respectful” or “civil” what I hear is “I should be allowed to ignore your anger and frustration. No matter how just or moral your demands, this is my excuse for not listening to you and never holding myself or other white people to account for failing you.”
10:25 AM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
I respectfully disagree with your assertion that this site is an echo chamber and that the circumstances here are anything like what's going on with Republicans.
Happy now?
It's a beautiful day - go hang your blanket out to dry.
Happy now?
It's a beautiful day - go hang your blanket out to dry.
10:21 AM - May 18, 2023
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In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
I'm a Black Woman in America, I hear opposition to my existence all the time...even here there are microaggressions we have to speak out on. I really don't need 🐦 level BS every day i sign into the 🐳
10:17 AM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
Please. We're where we are today because of racist white people, particularly white women who vote with the white male patriarchy. Y'all donned pink pussy hats, took to the street and STILL voted for trump. What more is there to debate?
10:16 AM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
There aren't respectful opposing views to "could you please stop killing us and/or wishing we were dead", Kelly
10:13 AM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
Republicans got where they are today by being racist bigots who hate everyone different.
Not because they politely listened to only republicans.
Not because they politely listened to only republicans.
10:03 AM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
I’ve been on here since February + have indeed seen a few respectful debates about various issues ( and not just the “Canadian Food Wars”. But rarely about the basics of democracy, or human rights for all. And I’m fine w/ that. I know what the opposition thinks because I read/listen to other sources
10:03 AM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
I listen to lots of points of view.
I won't listen to someone who dehumanizes trans people, erases queer people, and dominates people from the BIPOC communities.
Talk to me about capitalism and socialism, faith or atheism, mayonnaise or Miracle Whip, and it's all good
I won't listen to someone who dehumanizes trans people, erases queer people, and dominates people from the BIPOC communities.
Talk to me about capitalism and socialism, faith or atheism, mayonnaise or Miracle Whip, and it's all good
09:58 AM - May 18, 2023
In response to stephen matlock.
The toxicity from Twitter isn't pushback. It's the cruel responses, flippant answers, supremacist replies, and pure bigoted hate.
I don't think thoae people and those responses should be encouraged here.
I don't think thoae people and those responses should be encouraged here.
10:00 AM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
You do understand that many of us are #RedStateDems and live side by side with the opposition, hearing their viewpoints every time we leave our homes? The #Trans people amongst us get to hear calls for their deaths IRL. Maybe we want a space to connect so we don't feel so alone #BlueDotRedState
09:57 AM - May 18, 2023
In response to Salma Typhii.
Yeah there is no respectful view that says we can't live. We can't marry. We don't have rights to our own bodies. So I'm not sure what this person is looking for... we do disagree on here (ok it's s/x's raisins & pretzels) but on how to get to where we want to go, not how to stop people from living.
10:23 AM - May 18, 2023
In response to Salma Typhii.
Well said, Salma. At every family gathering when we discuss the issues of the day, someone says, “I’m so glad we live in a Blue state.” I feel for those of you who don’t. I’m glad that Spoutible gives you solace. 💙🐳
11:33 AM - May 18, 2023
In response to Kelly Fillbrandt.
In order to have a discussion you need to put in the effort and express an opinion. This is what creates the back and forth you seem to crave. On Twitter thousands of people never said a thing because they were shut down. Here they speak freely. That is the beauty of a site without hate.
03:28 AM - May 18, 2023
