Tom G. Hughes
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Tempted to say, "Too late, asshole," but his comments are a useful underscore of the peril that '24 represents.
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In 2011, Ralph Nader and Cornel West tried to “primary” Obama. See how well that went.

Now even Ralph Nader is acknowledging that we have to back Biden: it’s become a question of defending democracy.

Nader needs to start by telling his old buddy Cornel.

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Chet Sandberg
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In response to Tom G. Hughes.
Peril might not be enough to make the left vote for Biden. We won’t vote for Trump, but that might be all you get.
09:35 AM - Sep 26, 2023
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Slippy Shoe Spouts Stuff
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In response to Chet Sandberg.
If you are so disgusted by Biden being able to keep us from a great depression but was unable to change the price of eggs and gas is your reason for thinking you might feel cute in 2024 and vote for Trump then we are done talking here.
05:36 PM - Nov 17, 2023
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Chet Sandberg
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In response to Slippy Shoe Spouts Stuff.
The president doesn’t control inflation. The president has very little direct control of the economy.

I’m not voting for Biden because he can’t deliver policy changes that will erode the mass movement of confused working class people to the far right, sadly.
05:45 PM - Nov 17, 2023
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In response to Chet Sandberg.
which policies specifically
05:52 PM - Nov 17, 2023
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Chet Sandberg
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In response to Slippy Shoe Spouts Stuff.
Where would you like to start? Health care is broken. Minimum wage is falling apart. Capitalism is causing ecological catastrophe, war, hunger.

But even the most obvious solutions like erasing student debt simply can’t get done. Fascism is rising in the place of crumbling liberal institutions.
06:08 PM - Nov 17, 2023
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In response to Chet Sandberg.
who will do better? who would have done better? You are like a MAGA house republican ousting McCarthy assuming Johnson will be able to do better. its insane.
Fascism is on the rise and you are willing to split tickets. no thanks.
06:12 PM - Nov 17, 2023
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Chet Sandberg
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In response to Slippy Shoe Spouts Stuff.
Fascism is on the rise directly due to the failures of neoliberal Dems. Future actions by neoliberal Dems will not solve the problem, and working on identity politics primarily (instead of ALSO working on elevating the working class AS a class). Capitalism in crisis ALWAYS allows fascism to rise.
06:24 PM - Nov 17, 2023
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You do not even have a candidate you are touting with a single solution to any issue much less fight fascism. All you have is a doubt megaphone.
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06:36 PM - Nov 17, 2023
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Chet Sandberg
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In response to Slippy Shoe Spouts Stuff.
Because the fact of the matter is this: there is no candidate viable under our current system who can or will fix this.

You need to hear that. Clinton didn’t fix it, Obama didn’t fix it. Biden didn’t fix it. Because they CAN’T.

You know why FDR was successful? Because communists WERE a threat.
06:39 PM - Nov 17, 2023
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In response to Chet Sandberg.
then don't vote its your prerogative but don't drag the rest down into your miserable pity party or nihilism with no path other than to pout.
06:41 PM - Nov 17, 2023
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