Professor Kyle
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Have you ever been told to not be irritated, angry, or stressed out because it affects others? If so, let me guess – are you a woman?
12:36 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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KLFDetroit
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In response to Professor Kyle.
Yes, and actually by other head in the sand women.
08:43 AM - Jan 12, 2024
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Jillian Anger
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In response to Professor Kyle.
I’ve been told this a time or two.

My personal favourite is when it comes from folks (of both genders) who are extremely expressive, to the point of very raised voices, flailing arms and all.

I’m pretty even tempered. I know projection when I see and hear it.
08:04 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Meg Smythe
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In response to Professor Kyle.
When people ask me why I use the term “kids” instead of girls/boys/children: These youngsters grow up to be who they are so why saddle them with a lifelong label they’ll have to release later?

Women are not girls
Men are not boys
Good girls/boys are being told what is proper for that gender.
07:30 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Arthur Grupp
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In response to Meg Smythe.
I caught myself doing that recently. I used the term “good girl” and luckily realized my mistake immediately. i apologized and now endeavor to pause before commenting. Getting old ain’t for sissies!
07:31 AM - Jan 12, 2024
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Ms. Gen
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In response to Professor Kyle.
Yes! The constant "calm down" when you're just trying to articulate your viewpoint.
It's a ploy to silence us.
03:32 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Professor Kyle
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In response to Ms. Gen.
100%
03:32 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Caryl D
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In response to Ms. Gen.
Preach
03:33 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Trauma Epidemic
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In response to Professor Kyle.
Yes, by my (woman) abuser. And no.
02:08 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Lipsticktraces
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In response to Professor Kyle.
Last year a supposedly 'feminist' man that I worked with wrote a piece that included a reference to interacting with me. It said something like, "we could see her coming from across the street and knew from the look on her face that she had something to say loudly." I've cleaned it up here. It hurt.
01:56 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Professor Kyle
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In response to Lipsticktraces.
Wow. Despicable.
01:57 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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hmmwrites (Heather's version)
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In response to Professor Kyle.
Kyle, you definitely got the conversation started this afternoon. Phew!
01:44 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Professor Kyle
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In response to hmmwrites (Heather's version).
🫡
01:46 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Isa-Lee Wolf
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In response to Professor Kyle.
The other thing is women cannot cry in professional settings.

Look at people like Lindsey Graham and Kavanaugh and Jordan and all of them who get hysterical and emotional and no tells them they are hysterical or emotional.

They have the privilege of emotions.
01:19 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Professor Kyle
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In response to Isa-Lee Wolf.
Absolutely. They get praised for it.

And thinking of Graham, the worst criticism people can think of is to call him a woman. So messed up.
01:20 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Angelique Yaich
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In response to Isa-Lee Wolf.
let us not forget John Boehner...

As i have aged I have learned to own my sadness, tears are Okay!
01:53 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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M Kaur
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In response to Professor Kyle.
Whew! This one struck a nerve this happy Thursday morning!! I’m stuck by how much of this starts in our childhood. The concern often (for parents who do this) is “it’s my job to teach her how to be accepted by others later in life”. This is the excuse of parents who are their child’s first bully.
01:07 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Professor Kyle
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In response to M Kaur.
Absolutely. This reminds me of a parent dropping off her 7yr old daughter at summer camp last year – she apologized to my wife & the counselors for her being "kind of bossy" when what she was was a strong leader who the other kids looked up to.
01:10 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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01:06 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Goose
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In response to Professor Kyle.
The nice thing about being a guy is that I always react exactly the right amount to everything. Lucky me!
12:54 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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k Broquard
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In response to Goose.
Oh my!!!!!
It took a long time to realize that perhaps you are being sarcastic.
If not, I have a long spout that could easily come out
07:00 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Melissa Griffith ☕ aka Masker
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In response to Professor Kyle.
My personal fave was getting fired because I had a "strong personality" aka assertive. Seriously, that was the reason I was given.
12:52 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Professor Kyle
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In response to Melissa Griffith ☕ aka Masker.
That's so wrong.
12:56 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Elle Faba Prefers Bears to Humans
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In response to Melissa Griffith ☕ aka Masker.
Was let go for speaking bluntly about some stuff, have always thought had I been a guy, it would have just been a screaming match and we'd have carried on. Worst was talking it over with the therapist I was seeing then and her, yes her, glossing over the role my gender played in being let go. /1
01:30 PM - Jan 11, 2024 (Edited)
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Tracy Rose-Erickson
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In response to Professor Kyle.
My entire work life I was told if I wanted to succeed I couldn’t show my emotions because nobody would promote a hysterical woman. I am pretty sure that messed me up.
12:50 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Professor Kyle
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In response to Tracy Rose-Erickson.
I imagine every woman is told this, explicitly or not, and it must affect them greatly. Just horrible sexism.
12:51 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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M Kaur
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In response to Tracy Rose-Erickson.
Meanwhile the men around you were throwing tantrums if their coffee wasn’t the right temperature, I bet. But they were strong leaders, weren’t they?
12:54 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Jeannie (she/her)
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In response to Professor Kyle.
All the time. My tone is wrong, or my face is wrong, or I'm overreacting, or I'm taking it too personally, or.....

It's exhausting.
12:50 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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M Kaur
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In response to Jeannie (she/her).
Oh god! The tone, the face and I bet you have a whole chapter of anecdotes about your smile! I was once told that I had to smile at them and it better be genuine.
12:56 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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9Gen
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In response to Professor Kyle.
ALLLLL. MY. LIFE.
12:49 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Haruka (RELOCATED)
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In response to Professor Kyle.
I got “cranky” once. I might not have cared, but it was my father talking to another man about me like I wasn’t there.

This wasn’t normal for him with me, which may be why I remember it.
12:45 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Professor Kyle
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In response to Haruka (RELOCATED).
I imagine that's common – when men talk to other men they automatically up their sexism to appear more "manly" – probably without even thinking about it.
12:47 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Liz
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In response to Professor Kyle.
Oh my god…all the time..
12:39 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Sally W
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In response to Professor Kyle.
As a WW the WM boss called me “snippy”. So, my words had a bite to them, because making repeated mistakes was not excusable. So glad I’m retired.
12:38 PM - Jan 11, 2024 (Edited)
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Honorary Doctor of Sass
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In response to Professor Kyle.
Or your manager lie about you because you’re doing a better job than they are doing.
12:38 PM - Jan 11, 2024 (Edited)
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9Gen
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In response to Honorary Doctor of Sass.
OMG. Yes! And how about having to train new wm subordinates with zero experience, hired making more money than you, just so that mealy-mouthed little man manager could put you in your place?

Land mines everywhere.
12:53 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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M Kaur
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In response to Honorary Doctor of Sass.
Ugh! The let’s teach her her place tactic!
01:00 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Thee NW F#@&ing Magpie
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In response to Professor Kyle.
Double points if you're a BBIMP woman!
12:37 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Professor Kyle
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In response to Thee NW F#@&ing Magpie.
100%!
12:38 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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9Gen
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In response to Thee NW F#@&ing Magpie.
Quintuple points.
12:54 PM - Jan 11, 2024
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Thee NW F#@&ing Magpie
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In response to Professor Kyle.
Ding ding ding!
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