Ah, another person who was already down, I see. Keep misrepresenting what the people who have concerns are about though. We've been the only ones engaging in good faith this entire time. Cool passive love it or leave it, btw. Same ironic joke as ever, but least the delivery is new this time.
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Annie Tripp @AnnieRIUmmmm...I was listening. It went quite well. If by "not going well" you mean a minority of folks didn't get their way...04:27 PM - Feb 21, 2023
The conversation was clear and reasonable for anyone willing to engage in good faith.
I'm sorry you are not finding what you wanted here.
04:38 PM - Feb 21, 2023
I mean, if you were down with his pointlessly antagonistic, wildly disingenuous BS from the start, I guess I could see how he might be coming off okay today. But the last few shreds of faith I still had in this place are completely dead now.
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RA @intheweedsDid you listen to it? Because that's not at all the takeaway I got from it. It's still going on btw.03:28 PM - Feb 21, 2023
04:22 PM - Feb 21, 2023
I'll leave my account up for the time being for the receipts I collected, in case any newcomers want to see how his OG power user stans react to honest concerns over the site's direction. All my love to everyone sticking it out. Hope to see y'all somewhere down that lonesome road. Until our next...
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Kameo Skye @Kami_in_the_SkyeSounds like Bouzy's Twitter roundtable went over very poorly, so I guess there ain't really a fight worth fighting here anymore. You can't fix what's broken when it seems that the real problem started at the top all along. Disappointed, but not surprised. Never trust the CEO class.03:26 PM - Feb 21, 2023
03:32 PM - Feb 21, 2023
Sounds like Bouzy's Twitter roundtable went over very poorly, so I guess there ain't really a fight worth fighting here anymore. You can't fix what's broken when it seems that the real problem started at the top all along. Disappointed, but not surprised. Never trust the CEO class.
03:26 PM - Feb 21, 2023
Pro tip: Passive voice doesn't make things better when it's still speaking the same falsehoods & pulling the same gaslighting the vitriolic rageheads were.
06:03 AM - Feb 21, 2023
Then that's what the TOS needs to reflect. Until it does, then no, it absolutely isn't safe for writers or artists or trans people or sex workers or anyone else who might brush up against it. And if you didn't see the sheer rage & malicious lies, then you were intentionally looking the other way.
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Joanna Sanchez (she/her) @JoannaJoinsIt's pretty clear where Spoutible stands on porn. He addressed the guidelines concerning artist wishing to Spout their creations of sexual nature.05:31 AM - Feb 21, 2023
I didn't see any violence during the discussions either.
They're after raw porn and censoring it, not artists or writers exploring erotica
05:44 AM - Feb 21, 2023
This place has less than no chance of becoming a serious contender so long as Bouzy's stans decide to circle jerk themselves into a violent frenzy anytime someone brings a genuine concern to his/the community at-large's attention.
05:25 AM - Feb 21, 2023
Guess I should be thankful the notification bell being broken is the worst thing I came back to this morning. Got enough positive feedback that I'll still call out BS, but I could use a day of not being told to love it or leave it by gaslighting, misgendering, conspiratorial, gatekeeping cretins.
05:16 AM - Feb 21, 2023
If this site ends up failing, belligerent, ignorant, gatekeeping jackasses like you will be the reason. Your beloved ripe for exploitation & abuse TOS is a helluva lot riskier than it'd have been were it tweaked into coherence by someone who actually understands the law, love it or leave clownshow.
04:56 AM - Feb 21, 2023
There are currently so many embarrassing moral panics happening that I’m surprised the NYT isn’t putting out an evening edition.
02:57 PM - Feb 20, 2023
I also don't think "the community voted on this" is a response of any worth. It's hugely impacted by sample bias, and it's a cop out to say that the hard policy decisions were decided by a particularly vocal set of early users.
03:21 PM - Feb 20, 2023
Oh joy, more love it or leave it garbage. Please learn some new jokes already... 🙄
If this place is going to ever be an actual thing, then the TOS being a dangerously poorly written mess is a serious problem in need of addressing.
If this place is going to ever be an actual thing, then the TOS being a dangerously poorly written mess is a serious problem in need of addressing.
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Felisa We got more emojis? @FeliDiabolicaActually no. Those of us that were here from jump were able to participate in surveys & have our input count. If those that are complaining had read the TOS before signing up & didn't like what they saw should have stopped there & moved along to somewhere else that fit their expectations.01:25 PM - Feb 20, 2023
01:37 PM - Feb 20, 2023
I got a whole timeline full of quote receipts of my own + an incredibly disgusting conspiracy nutbar from elsewhere on here that say our concerns are both not being heard and that Bouzy stans are so completely blind they're going to cartoonish extremes to dismiss reality. Just sayin'.
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Pamela @PamelaCriticism is when you voice your pov and are heard, and often the other person voices their pov in response. It seems more like you want things your way and are unhappy that you’re not getting it. Being able to criticize doesn’t = getting your way. Your belief that folks are blind is laughable.10:30 AM - Feb 20, 2023
01:30 PM - Feb 20, 2023
You gross, gaslighting, conspiracy nutbar creeps are the only ones hypersexualizing things. Literally nobody has asked for more sex. Just coherence. I personally feel unwelcome here because cartoonishly broad policy is an immediate, massive red flag for marginalized people. Taf is wrong with yall...
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bardsandsages @bardsandsagesThe "concern trolling" for the LGBTQ+ community has been disconcerting because it feeds the notion that this community is defined by sex acts or a need for exhibitionism. It hypersexualizes the community by pretending to protect it.11:36 AM - Feb 20, 2023
12:53 PM - Feb 20, 2023
Irony:
Watching people who endured four years of "if you don't like it, leave" from MAGA trolls on Twitter, saying on a new site "if you don't like it, leave" to people who want a more comprehensive policy surrounding allowed and banned content.
Watching people who endured four years of "if you don't like it, leave" from MAGA trolls on Twitter, saying on a new site "if you don't like it, leave" to people who want a more comprehensive policy surrounding allowed and banned content.
11:56 AM - Feb 20, 2023
Hi. Are you like... brand new to this planet? I have existed on it for a hair over 38 painful years. This website does not exist in a vacuum. I have my own life and all of human history as evidence for overly broad rules being made *entirely* for the purpose of harming marginalized people.
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Raine Hyatt @OzarkNo one has marginalized any groups Kameo. No one at all11:01 AM - Feb 20, 2023
This is all made up BS theorizing on what maybe could possibly happen.
It hasn't happened
No evidence it will happen
You're just stirring the pot looking to cause conflict
Trolls do what trolls do though
11:25 AM - Feb 20, 2023
Literally nobody is asking for there to be. Christ on a cracker... Have y'all even read any of what anyone's been saying? Everyone expressing concern is uncomfortable and/or confused because literally everything is on the table and no framework exists to define where the line is on any of it. 🤦♀️
10:57 AM - Feb 20, 2023
Oh, I need to be explicitly clear about something. I'm only quoting a lot of this blowback to highlight the various hypocrisy & jerkassery. These are receipts. Do not go after anyone I'm calling out. If you feel the need to say anything to someone, let it be constructive criticism only please.
10:42 AM - Feb 20, 2023
The only people who were actually doing any harassing & bullying were the ones defending the policy, not the ones who were bothered or confused by it. All the love it or leave it rhetoric has also been a pretty terrible look for a brand new site claiming to be welcoming & inclusive.
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Carlotta Berry @DrCABerryThoughtful criticism and questions are fine, harassing and bullying when you don’t get your way are not. #IStandWithBouzy you can always speak with your feet and dollars.10:15 AM - Feb 20, 2023
10:29 AM - Feb 20, 2023
Broad is the problem here, not vague. Basically anything that could be interpreted as even the slightest bit sexual could be randomly weaponized, because literally everything the pregamers brainstormed is included, but no framework was created to actually define where the line is on any given thing.
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Jay Mara @JayMaraHOMG go to another site already. Are you harassing Noam on Post? Go start your own site - Grow up. Anything. Post.news TOS is even more vague.09:28 AM - Feb 20, 2023![Picture]()
10:20 AM - Feb 20, 2023
Also, maybe your extensive pregaming wasn't quite good enough. If your policy was going to be so dangerously broad, sensitivity options should have been available from the beginning to protect users who might end up banging up against it from the *many* anti-sex zealots you have here, & vice-versa.
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Christopher Bouzy @cbouzyHere is my statement regarding our policy on adult nudity and sexual content.07:37 AM - Feb 20, 2023![Dear valued users,
Yesterday, a small number of users expressed concerns regarding our policy on adult nudity and sexual content. It's important to note that this policy was extensively discussed, debated, and voted on prior to the launch of Spoutible. We refute claims that this policy discriminates against the LGBTQ+ community, particularly transgender users, as this is unequivocally untrue.
Spoutible was created to provide a secure platform for the LGBTQ+ community to express themselves and discuss issues without fear of being targeted or attacked. We are committed to ensuring that our platform is a safe space for our LGBTQ+ users.
It is unreasonable to suggest that our policy prohibits LGBTQ+ users from sharing content such as images of same-sex couples holding hands, kissing, or other appropriate content that is frequently shared by thousands of users on our platform. Furthermore, we encourage our transgender community to share their transition journeys and stories. None of this re...]()
09:45 AM - Feb 20, 2023
This goddamned gaslighting bullshit right here. Literally no one's asking to be allowed to post porn. Everyone w/ concerns is just bothered/confused/both about the wording of the policy, cuz it's written in a way that makes it extremely easy to abuse. And y'all are *very* clearly ready to abuse it.
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Richard Head @RichardsBigHeadYou're not being forced to stay. If you don't like it leave, it's just that simple. I don't want to see your porn.09:00 AM - Feb 20, 2023
09:21 AM - Feb 20, 2023
Where any of the people who attacked/gaslit/lied about the policy to those of us with concerns amongst the suspended?
The policy as originally written is what conflates things, and in doing so makes anyone/anything even potentially NSFW-related inherently unwelcome. Has it been updated at all?
The policy as originally written is what conflates things, and in doing so makes anyone/anything even potentially NSFW-related inherently unwelcome. Has it been updated at all?
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Christopher Bouzy @cbouzyHere is my statement regarding our policy on adult nudity and sexual content.07:37 AM - Feb 20, 2023![Dear valued users,
Yesterday, a small number of users expressed concerns regarding our policy on adult nudity and sexual content. It's important to note that this policy was extensively discussed, debated, and voted on prior to the launch of Spoutible. We refute claims that this policy discriminates against the LGBTQ+ community, particularly transgender users, as this is unequivocally untrue.
Spoutible was created to provide a secure platform for the LGBTQ+ community to express themselves and discuss issues without fear of being targeted or attacked. We are committed to ensuring that our platform is a safe space for our LGBTQ+ users.
It is unreasonable to suggest that our policy prohibits LGBTQ+ users from sharing content such as images of same-sex couples holding hands, kissing, or other appropriate content that is frequently shared by thousands of users on our platform. Furthermore, we encourage our transgender community to share their transition journeys and stories. None of this re...]()
08:54 AM - Feb 20, 2023
In response to Kameo Skye.
What's interesting to me is (while I absolutely haven't dug deep into the chaos) I've yet to see a single post on either platform pushing for more explicit content here, despite claims otherwise.
02:24 AM - Feb 20, 2023
Lmao, I'd just posted up my summation and was literally about to leave for the night, & possibly forever, when I was notified you'd decided to show up to try & pile on that little bit more. Other dude already blocked me before I'd even finished that quote. You are quite welcome to do the same. 🤷♀️
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Paul Loop @ploop52So, leave?02:05 AM - Feb 20, 2023
02:18 AM - Feb 20, 2023
Ah, things are finally quieting down. And I see I'm actually up a couple followers after all the chaos tonight? Does that mean I wasn't speaking completely outta turn & that the issues I was trying to call out may have had a modicum of merit to them?
02:07 AM - Feb 20, 2023
This spout was removed because the account associated with it was suspended.
08:12 PM - Feb 19, 2023
